{"id":6637,"date":"2011-04-29T13:07:00","date_gmt":"2011-04-29T13:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pharma-mkting.com\/competitors-are-best-source-of\/"},"modified":"2019-02-21T01:20:57","modified_gmt":"2019-02-21T01:20:57","slug":"competitors-are-best-source-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/ec2-54-175-84-28.compute-1.amazonaws.com\/pharma-mkting.com\/blog\/competitors-are-best-source-of\/","title":{"rendered":"Competitors Are &#8220;Best Source&#8221; of Complaints About Promotions Received by FDA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Approximately 12 minutes into yesterday&#8217;s 45-minute &#8220;Bad Ad Program Webinar,&#8221; Catherine Gray, PharmD, Management Advisor at DDMAC, got down to business and started talking about the program that some critics have said is &#8220;ineffective, not cost-effective, and biased&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/pharma-mkting.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/fdas-bad-ad-program-is-phoniest-thing.html\">see poll here<\/a>). At that point, Gray talked about &#8220;Limitations&#8221; of FDA&#8217;s drug promotion surveillance. She focused on promotions to physicians.<\/p>\n<p>Among FDA&#8217;s TOP three &#8220;normal&#8221; surveillance activities was &#8220;complaints submitted by industry competitors.&#8221; In fact, Gray said &#8220;we have found that industry competitors tend to be some of the best sources of information about potentially false and misleading advertising.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I am not surprised that competitors complain to the FDA. I&#8217;ve spoken to industry people who read this blog because they like to see me blast their competitors. For example, when I speculated that Phil Mickelson was on the AMGEN\/PFIZER payroll when he said glowing things about ENBREL in the press (see &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/pharma-mkting.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/is-phil-mickelson-shilling-for-enbrel.html\">Is Phil Mickelson Shilling for Enbrel<\/a>?&#8221;), a competitor told me that his company wondered the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, even competitors cannot hear what&#8217;s said &#8220;behind closed doors&#8221; in physician offices, industry-sponsored dinner and lunch programs, and on the floor at major medical meetings. The FDA initiated its BadAd program to &#8220;fill these gaps&#8221; in its surveillance activities. Thus, the BadAd program is designed to solicit complaints from physicians about verbal statements made by company sales reps or company-paid speakers.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/--nNnW016fiQ\/Tbq1upRRTaI\/AAAAAAAADU8\/xOlTLhFqaW8\/s1600\/Limitations_of_FDA_Surveillance.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"251\" src=\"http:\/\/ec2-54-175-84-28.compute-1.amazonaws.com\/pharma-mkting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Limitations_of_FDA_Surveillance.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\nWhen asked &#8220;In cases where there is a complaint about an oral statement, what evidence standard do you use to go forward with an action,&#8221; an FDA speaker responded: &#8220;We have a very high level of evidence that we require that often includes an affidavit &#8230; and verification as well. So, we do have a very high &#8230; standard of evidence that we require before taking enforcement action.&#8221; No further details were given.<\/p>\n<p>However, in response to another question, FDA said they also accept anonymous complaints, which obviously cannot be substantiated by an &#8220;affidavit.&#8221; FDA does not reveal how many of the 239 BadAd complaints it received in 2010 were from &#8220;anonymous&#8221; sources, but given the fact that competitors are likely to be a major source of complaints, I image that a good deal of BadAd complaints are anonymous and likely to be worthless.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, some companies are just too dumb not to leave a trail of verifiable evidence, such as Hill Dermaceuticals, which had a nice public website the FDA could plainly see violated its regulations (see <a href=\"http:\/\/pharma-mkting.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/fdas-bad-ad-program-is-phoniest-thing.html\">FDA&#8217;s Bad Ad Program is &#8220;Phoniest Thing Ever!&#8221;<\/a> and screen shot below).<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-L9TVh3C1KsQ\/Tbq2SG_S8KI\/AAAAAAAADVE\/ZMmydbROvAo\/s1600\/Hill_Derm_Scr.jpg\" imageanchor=\"1\" style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"300\" src=\"http:\/\/ec2-54-175-84-28.compute-1.amazonaws.com\/pharma-mkting.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Hill_Derm_Scr.jpg\" width=\"400\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\nNo wonder then that the Hill Dermaceuticals case was the ONLY BadAd complaint that resulted in a notice of violation letter. Does the FDA need a BadAd program for that? BTW, Jerry Roth, president of Hill Dermaceuticals, complained that DDMAC acted on a complaint filed by &#8220;a doctor for another [competing] company.&#8221; Mr. Roth should THANK the FDA for giving his company some GREAT promotion!<\/p>\n<p>Aside from violative verbal statements, the FDA&#8217;s BadAd program is designed to capture complaints specifically about &#8220;Home-made promotional materials not submitted to FDA.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>How rampant is the use of &#8220;home-made promotional materials&#8221; by pharma sales reps? It must be significant if the FDA specifically mentions it as a reason for the BadAd program, which don&#8217;t forget, was created by &#8220;2 former sales representatives with 11 years combined selling experience.&#8221; These former reps, said Gray, &#8220;are well aware what goes on behind closed doors.&#8221; Perhaps these two former reps engaged in questionable promotion to physicians themselves? Gray added that they were &#8220;quite successful in selling their products.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>My impression of the BadAd program is that it was created by former drug industry sales professionals and is designed to make it easier for sales reps and company-paid physicians to &#8220;rat out&#8221; their competitors, anonymously or not. It just doesn&#8217;t present a good image of how a government agency should work. In fact, I am sure that under a new administration, the BadAd program will be the first item on the agenda for cutting. While it may be easy these days for a drug rep to begin a career in the FDA, I am not so sure a former drug rep FDA staffer will be able to get a job in the drug industry after being laid off due to budget cuts!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Approximately 12 minutes into yesterday&#8217;s 45-minute &#8220;Bad Ad Program Webinar,&#8221; Catherine Gray, PharmD, Management Advisor at DDMAC, got down to business and started talking about the program that some critics have said is &#8220;ineffective, not cost-effective, and biased&#8221; (see poll here). At that point, Gray talked about &#8220;Limitations&#8221; of FDA&#8217;s drug promotion surveillance. 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